Last night I was visiting, sitting watching TV with several people I have known for quite a while. TNT was showing “Into The West”. Much of this epsiode was, of course, on the relationships with Indians and the White Man. I was certainly into a mode where I was feeling myself less endeared toward the idea of “being an American”, and thinking instead about how that loyalty to country is so inducive to jettisoning a distinctly Christian “response” and reflection on the many sorted and sad instances of what can only be seen as a kind of “collateral damage” to the “Building of America”.
Anyway, one of those present asked me “If the treaties had worked, do you think the Indians would have progressed” (and what I heard implied was “the way we have….technology , medicine, transportation, etc.” I reacted to the first part of that question first, because I am well aware of this person’s conservative leanings, and that they rather resent what they call my “anti-Americanism” (particularly since it became punctuated by so much “anti-Bushism”). I asked “Why DIDN’T they work?” (the treaties). They rolled their eyes. To the the second part I asked “Depends on what you mean by progress. OUR kind of ‘progress'”. They were perturbed that I wouldn’t answer a “simple question”, and I said “Those two underlying assumptions stopped me from going there” (I don’t think I said it exactly like that, but was trying to communicate that……”Underlying assumptions” die hard …usually they don’t die at all, but are defended well beyond what they are worth (except for the assumptions that are the perspectives toward which we journey as Christians, devoted to participating in the Kingdom of God).
There followed a lot of attacks , which included (joined in by some other conservative Christians in the room) “you ought to get out of the country if you don’t like it” and “PRESIDENT Bush is his name” and the topper of all: when referring to my blog which they had been reading for the past couple of years, they announced that they had not read it since March, because it would be “a waste of my time”.
I came home and felt completely drained, and deflated. One person had referred to “the people I follow” , and when I asked “those people being…….” asking for specifics, and they said “Liberal democrats” and I replied “the prophets were talking about justice and reconcilation and the poor and ‘trust in horses and chariots’ long before there were Republicans or Democrats, Conservatives or Liberals, or even America”. I added “Actually, I have begun to hone in critically on ‘liberal democracy’ ( a nod silently to Hauerwas, Jim Wallis, and Radical Orthodoxy).
All of this has been turned up on the dial a hundred fold since the Bush administration took power. Fueled by outlets such as Fox News and virulent hate talk from the likes of O’Reilly, Ann Coulter, and carefuly crafted political points from the pen of Karl Rove (who everyday reminds me of the similar fear-hate-mongering of the Southern Baptist fundamentalist takeover campaign in the 70’s, and its extension into the administration of a victorious right-wing via the mass firings and removals of Missionaries, Seminary teachers, and Denominatinal workers). (I am SO hoping that something that Rove and the Bush administration don’t expect or count on comes out of this Plame leak affair that is being hotly contested right now. I would love to see the scenario Joseph Smith envisioned after the outing of his wife as a CIA operative: that Rove be “frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs”)
The disturbing discussions and tone of the conversation also has its elements of frustrating me that I can’t seem to be at all “fluent” and “with it” (the examples that could be used just don’t seem to flow very well in the heat of those moments).
Eric,
I am so thankful for you. I really do believe there is something superior in the online realities of shared perspectives versus that of the impersonal, “uninvolved” mode of relating to which most churches unwittingly subject its people. For all of the backlash against the “dangers” of online communication becoming a “psedo-replacement” for traditional community (which I don’t believe it should or will), there are certainly places and contexts where it provides so much more than particular churches and particular geographies are able to provide to specific people in search of authnetic and committed church community. There is no church right now that has made itself wiling to be my support or to know me as I believe it is the calling of any church to be for ANY of its members, and yet you , via this medium, have been an example to me of what at least the intellectual and emotional and ideological element of church could and should be.
Thank YOU Bro, for your encouraging words.
Dale
Try not to lose heart, bro. This kind of stuff will inevitably happen. People don’t want to give up their allegiance to America because they think it’s more important than Jesus.
Same thing happened when I started studying Radical Orthodoxy: when I started talking about it in a few blogs, including my own, there were a few backlashes at me for various reasons, the most ad hominem of them the one on VerbumIpsum by that one guy who had no intention of helping me but just insulting me.
I sent my paster a somewhat lengthy e-mail earlier this week in which I asked him if he ever gets discouraged from all the backlash from people. He said something like “all too often.”
It’s a tough gig, bro, when your allegiance is first to God.
What annoys me more than anything is when people accuse me of being a “liberal democrat.” It’s quite sad that they have no idea what they’re talking about. First, I’m registered non-partisan. Second, I don’t even think I want to even vote anymore anyway. Lastly, like you mentioned, I’m extremely critical of the Enlightenment Liberalism that undergirds not just Liberals/Democrats, but Conservatives as well.
I look forward to someday telling my dad that he’s a Liberal. It should be an interesting conversation.
I know it’s not fun right now, but I think you should know you are loved by an Infinite, Triune God. I think it’s commendable, and dare I say, faithful that you lean the way you lean.
peace of Christ to you bro,
eric