Beware of Convenient Fellowship? NYTimes articles re: online community and faith #wiredchurch

This statement from the NYTimes articles misses on both scores.

Beware of Convenient Fellowship – Room for Debate – NYTimes.com.

The virtual faith experience is smoother and more painless than the real-world one. But it is also less likely to foster the kind of deep spiritual growth that comes only from authentic, face-to-face community – from grappling with religious teachings and disciplines that challenge our natural inclinations and religious believers whose rough edges help us recognize and soften our own.

This seems to assume there is an agreement on what constitutes “smooth and painless”.  I don’t even know what that means to say that the “virtual faith experience is smoother  and more painless”.  Often I find it to be overly dominated by debates that spiral into flame wars.  I know the author is referring to the polite and friendly and the “likes” and all those “connection building” elements.  But the trolls abound.

And then they define the “authentic, face to face”  (loaded as that is by virtue of the combination of “authentic” and “face to face”)  community as where one can “grapple” with “religious teachings that challenge our natural inclinations” and be confronted with believers whose rough edges help us recognize and soften our own.  I find that totally useless,  since there is plenty of “confrontation” and contrast and even argument and debate that happens online.  In fact,  it seems it is actually more likely that these things get confronted online than in “authentic, face to face community”.

Now I believe there are indeed elements of  human community and interaction that are altered, omitted,  changed,  distorted,  …..different…..in ways that can be detrimental to the full experience of embodied community.  But yet,  there are elements of  online community that can reduce inhibitions (that in itself can be a blessing  or a curse),  free up individuals who feel more intimidated in certain social situations and groups,  especially when they feel new to the group.  There are certainly elements of “authenticity” that get drawn out in online settings for many people  (I being  one of them).  I am much more confident in my ability to articulate in writing,  because  I don’t have to worry about my self-perceived flaws in my face to face “delivery”;  if I stumble over a word or speak too haltingly,  I immediately sense the pressure to improve the performance,  which  feeds into increased discomfort.  That doesn’t happen all the time,  but it happens internally enough that I have  developed an innate tendency to prefer online discussion to most face to face ones.  But I still desire the face to face ones.  I wish there wasn’t such a tendency for people to keep online and offline conversations so separated.  It has been much rarer in my experience ,  than I would have thought 15 years ago,  to experience the frequent face to face conversation that begins with something  like “ what you were saying in your blog post last  night really made sense”  or some sort  of  continuation of an online originated thought.  I want to see a more fluid movement from one to the other.  Online conversations can be extensions of ftf ones.  FTF conversations can be “water cooler” conversations that exist alongside the traditional water cooler discussions that tend to use media events (some shared social event or TV show or popular movie).

I would love to see more elaborate coverage of the sociology and psychology of human interaction to use as the basis for declaring face  to face (what some call “real”  or “authentic” such as  in this article I quoted)  or online (“virtual”) community as superior or “preferrable” to the other.  Just as the church will do with “pastoral care”,  the studies in psychology and sociology inform a theological approach (and so we have such programs as Clinical Pastoral Education – CPE),  we also need to be studying the way personal and interpersonal needs are met and not met in online contexts and with the varying techologies such as mobile,  and services such as Facebook, Twitter, and Blogs.

I have embarked upon some research into this.  Something I’ve talked and written about often over the years,  and I hope to bring to light and into everyday theological parlance and awareness that there are complex sociological and psychological, and therefore also “spiritual” forces at work here to which we must give careful discernment and study.

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4 Replies to “Beware of Convenient Fellowship? NYTimes articles re: online community and faith #wiredchurch”

  1. dlature Post author

    Kurt,
    Even though I myself have to end up using terms like "virtual", "authentic", and "real" when describing Virtual Community (for that matter, even the word "community") , I think their usage and their assumptions are what is helpful for us to explore. There are some things that happen online that I think actually surpass what has been, for some reason or another, yet to be provided in ONE PERSON's experience of church. So in cases like those, it is apt to say that the online context that enables something freeing or liberating to an individual could well be described as more "real" than what was happening on that issue in a face to face setting. Likewise, relationships in face to face church meetings and events can be "virtual"; which is to say "not quite real", or not quite "authentic". We hide things, and others hide from us.
    But I do, at the end of the day, lay that on the table as what OUGHT to be happening face to face, and that the ONLINE experience brings that to light as a judgment of sorts. What barrier or barriers were overcome in an online setting should be taken as challenge by the face to face instances. Just as we should remain cognizant of how words communicated through a screen detached from their "speaker's" physicality and social and non-verbal cues, thus bringing to the "virtual" setting some aspect of a better "simulation" of …uh…..REAL or FTF conversation.

  2. Kurt Willems

    Interesting thoughts. I think community can happen on line, but feel that the boundaries of such are much tighter than enfleshed community. I think their can be a risk to rely more on the web than on the "here and now" realities… but each persons situation is different.

    Also, one book recommendation (if you haven't read it yet) is: The Hidden Power of Electronic Culture: How Media Shapes Faith, the Gospel, and Church ( http://amzn.to/r9WmUm )

    Peace.

    Kurt

    1. dlature Post author

      Thanks Kurt. I think I agree with you, but would want some further unpacking of what you meant by "the boundaries of such (community happening online) are much tighter than enfleshed community." and also in what way "the Web" is OTHER than "here and now"

      I fully intend to check out both of Shane Hipps' books (also "Flickering Pixels" in additon to the one you mention)

      I talked to Aiden Enns, editor of Geez magazine via Skype (and I still intend to get that up online pretty soon) and we talked about Geez' "Cyber" issue from last year.

      I have a sense that you and I would agree on a lot. I'm interested at some of the "people sciences" studies that can inform our theologizing about the nature and effects of "online/virtual community" as it plays out in the church.

      1. Kurt Willems

        I think we'd agree lots too. If you read the book by Hipps, I think you will know why I'm not quite willing to call virtual community as authentic as the real thing… That book has given shape to much of my reflections on using any form of media. Obviously, Im quite connected online so I'd be lying if I claimed to be a "purist" 🙂

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